Can Art Save Us?
I’m raising the first national and international conversation to explore courage and curiosity and why it makes a big difference to our mental, societal and democratic health. Scroll down for all episodes. I’m grateful to share my reviews below. I talk to award-winning, diverse, national and international artists about the role of courage and curiosity in their lives. What do these qualities really mean and why do they matter to our mental, societal and democratic health? Can the Arts change the global epidemic of mental illness, loneliness, the polarization of our communities and global conflict? My dedicated website including interview transcriptions is www.canartsaveus.com All of my guests share personal stories, often life changing, their deep challenges and perseverance with success through their different responses to courage and curiosity. Be inspired, we talk, hip-hop poetry, Islamic architecture building peace , tap dance in protest, surrealism and WWII front line photography, life as a drag King, the Queen of the Qanun, war displacement and Syrian music, the Art School for the Homeless, the 1970s West Indian Front Room, inclusive dance, wheelchair acrobatics, British-Pakistani, Black-British, Jewish, and Irish spoken word artists, giant talking ceramics, an end of life film, the music industry and discrimination, graffiti art and Muslim faith, shamanic storytelling, a Cameroonian clay addict, a world leading sculptor and voices of Windrush in arts activism, comedy, photography and iconic sculpture.

Can Art Save Us?
I talk to diverse and award-winning artists about the role of curiosity and courage in their lives and work. I'm exploring the role of courage and curiosity in our mental, societal and democratic health, why these qualities matter and their wider meanings. I explore international and national perspectives. In the UK the Arts have been relentlessly cut and notably ripped out of education systems. This podcast series is in response to that political prejudice, the arts inequality that exists as a result and to assert the value and purpose of the Arts to our mental, societal and democratic health. This is a free to listen podcast for everyone.
The dedicated website with all episode visuals and transcripts are at: www.canartsaveus.com

Your Host and Reviews
Paula has interviewed throughout her career in music and film television, including Talkin' Jazz, Talkin' Blues and Music Legends for NBC Europe and A list actors and cast for BSkyB Movies. In recent years she has regularly interviewed artists and craft makers.
"Amazing Episode of Can Art Save Us? Such a well-informed and intelligent interview. I thought you did an amazing job. Really great podcast idea." Listener, Dr. Craig Jordan-Baker, author.
"I am in floods of tears. What an awesome, inspiring and generous conversation." Listener, Ali Beddoes.
"Thank you so very much, your questions trigger the narrative in a really intuitive and splendid way." Guest, Marice Cumber, Ceramicist and CEO of the Art School for the Homeless.
"I listened to Barry J. Gibb, so great and you're excellent at extracting info and making the conversation flow. Really loved it!!!" Listener, Jody Levitus.
"Wow, I really enjoyed that question!" Guest, Adam Kammerling, Poet and former Slam Poet Champion.
"Listened to your podcast and it's fantastic! Really authentic conversation, congratulations on such a great show!" Listener, John Offord, BBC Producer.
"Wow, that's such an interesting question. Wow. That really speaks to me." Guest, Otis Mensah, the UK's first hip-hop poet laureate.
"These are very interesting, very good questions. I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation." Marwa Al-Sabouni, Architect, Author, Top 50, Global Thinkers List.
"I love the way you are steering the interviews, I'm loving the Anthony Penrose interview. I have enjoyed my first two episodes immensely." Listener, Giles Pooley
"Great to have an interviewer who delves deep and is so well prepared! Thank you. A great pleasure." Guest, Cherry Smyth, Royal Society of Literature, Fellow.
"Excited to discover your podcast and can’t wait to listen to this." Listener, Carrie Stanley.
"Your podcast is creating important conversation Paula. Thank you for inviting me!" Guest, Qudsia Akhtar, Poet, Highly Commended, Forward Book of Poetry.
"Excited for this to be out in the world!" Guest, Bobby Brown, Music and Creative Producer.
"Absolutely brilliant to see this pop up in my podcast feed today. Can’t wait to listen! Inspiring stuff!" Listener & Guest, Barry J. Gibb, award winning filmmaker.
"I love the content you do because it is soo important!!!" Listener, Podcast Host of Crisis Talk, Pelumi.
"You're such a joy to talk to, right, because people don't ask, you're waiting for people to ask those questions." Guest, Tom Delahunt, Hobo Poet and author.
"What a stunning line up!" Listener, Bhumika Billa.
"I’m dead excited to be here." Guest, Lady Kitt, Drag King & Maker.
"I’m a fan ! … amazing episode, I think you’ve created an extraordinary body of work." Listener, James Russel.
"Loved coming on your podcast Paula. It was wonderful." Guest, Princess Arinola, spoken word artist, musician, songwriter, BBC Words First winner.
Episodes

Saturday Jul 30, 2022
Ceramic cups full of cowardice, creativity and courage.
Saturday Jul 30, 2022
Saturday Jul 30, 2022
Marice Cumber is one of the UK’s most compelling ceramic artists. She presents her own emotions, fears and vulnerabilities in her work and even cowardice shows up, no doubt kicking and screaming. Her large, over-sized, ceramic cups hold and display her raw emotions. They share the edgy qualities of German Expressionism by showing inner feelings and embracing the alternative but keeping a healthy focus on individual strength too. Marice is also the founder and director of Accumulate, the Art School for the Homeless and she has been committed to creativity as a way of empowering people who are homeless to move forward positively in their lives – you could say helping to re-fill their own cups with possibility and opportunity. We talk about cowardice, courage, mental health, purpose through crisis and how we can change adversity in our lives through creativity.
Series Audio Editor - Joey Quan.
Series Music - Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can also be found here: https://www.canartsaveus.com
Discover Marice Cumber:
https://www.instagram.com/maricecumber/
https://accumulate.org.uk/

Saturday Jul 30, 2022
The UK’s First Hip-Hop Poet Laureate
Saturday Jul 30, 2022
Saturday Jul 30, 2022
Otis Mensah is the first hip-hop poet to be awarded a poet laureate title in the UK by the City of Sheffield. Influenced by the expressive freedom of Jazz, Otis documents his journeys of introspection through vulnerable expression that speaks to racial identity, masculinity, loneliness and being othered. He has had numerous commissions and live performances include the Glastonbury Music Festival. His poetry collection, Metamorphosis, gives voice to unspoken trauma in everyday-life and we also talked about why poetry can speak, but we may not talk to each other.
As the first Hip-Hop artist to be awarded a poet laureate title in the UK, he wants to use the position to break down barriers, smash the stuffy stereotype, and remind people that poetry is meant to be for the people. The Guardian.
Otis could be described as the most courageously vulnerable artist of the 21st century.
Series Audio Editor - Courtesy of Joey Quan.
Series Music - Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can also be found here: https://www.canartsaveus.com
Discover Otis Mensah here: https://otismensah.com/

Thursday May 05, 2022
Home of the Surrealists, Lee Miller / Roland Penrose
Thursday May 05, 2022
Thursday May 05, 2022
Antony Penrose, is the son of extraordinary parents. A photographer, author and rewilder, he is also the Co-director of The Penrose Collection and the Lee Miller Archives at Farleys House & Gallery. At his childhood home in Sussex, Antony conserves and shares the ground breaking work of his parents. His father Sir Roland Penrose was a surrealist painter, poet, biographer and a major collector of modern art. His mother, Lee Miller, was a highly significant WWII frontline war photographer. We talk about her deep, childhood trauma and leaving Vogue magazine behind as a top model to photograph truth, war crimes and concentration camps. Oscar winner, Kate Winslet, will play Lee Miller in the forthcoming film, 'Lee.' Antony talks about biting Picasso as a child, how 'curiosity is one of the most important things in the world,’ and the courage of conviction. He doesn’t shy away from brutal honesty personally or professionally. He talks about growing up with his mother’s PTSD and alcoholism and the astounding discovery of her enormous, photographic legacy in the attic after she had died. He asked Lee once, “Do you mind what people might say about you?” Lee replied, “They can say what ever they like, as long as it’s the truth.” Antony remains loyal to his parent’s core value of truth, ever more important in an age of fake news, propaganda and divisive politics.
Images by permission only: ‘
Antony Penrose, Farleys House, Sussex, England’ by Tony Tree / ‘Dining Room, Farleys House, Sussex, England’ by Tony Tree
Audio edit courtesy of Joey Quan.
Series Music - Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can be found here: https://canartsaveus.com/
Discover Farleys House & Gallery: https://www.farleyshouseandgallery.co.uk/
Listen to the podcast of letters between Lee Miller and Roland Penrose, on all major streaming platforms, "Love Letters Bound in Gold Handcuffs."

Thursday May 05, 2022
Song, sexism and systemic racism in the music industry.
Thursday May 05, 2022
Thursday May 05, 2022
Eve Horne, is a singer, songwriter, producer, author, award winning mentor and activist. Eve's journey is a roller coaster from being in 90s 'girl groups' touring with major boy bands, a No. 1 single and millions of streams on Spotify, to a major life change dealing with depression then re-emerging as a producer and co-writer for major artists. Black, gay and a single mum, Eve is also a campaigner for gender equality in the music industry with her campaign 'The Unheard.' This year she is recognised as a Future Leader with Keychange, a global movement for equality. Eve talks about early trauma from feelings of rejection to racially motivated murder. She talks about life extremes from private jets to driving trains and onto the loneliness of leadership. Struggle has built her resilience and her commitment to justice is brave and unwavering.
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can be found here: https://canartsaveus.com/
Images: Courtesy of Eve Horne / Peak Music UK.
Audio edit: Courtesy of Joey Quan.
Series Music - Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Discover Eve: https://www.peakmusic.uk/

Thursday May 05, 2022
Islamic genius, gravity, grief and the grip of art.
Thursday May 05, 2022
Thursday May 05, 2022
Hala Sabet, changed her life from being the most senior woman in the multinational oil and gas giant, Shell, in Egypt, to becoming a fine artist. Hala draws on her Egyptian roots to express the universe through sculpture and painting. She was selected by the Royal British Society of Sculptors and the International Art Fair in Egypt, where she also has recently had large scale solo exhibitions. We explore curiosity and courage through the idea of biblical coding, Islamic geometry, gravity and profound grief when art was her essential life force. Hala shares the loss of her mother, brother and feeling devastated when her husband needed major heart surgery. Hala's conviction is gripped through art.
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can be found here: https://canartsaveus.com/
Images: Artworks by and courtesy of Hala Sabet.
Audi Edit courtesy of Katherine Wiley.
Series Music - Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Discover Hala Sabet: https://www.halasabet.co.uk/

Wednesday May 04, 2022
The power of paint, public space, a mum and Islamic faith.
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Mohammed Ali, MBE, is a graffiti artist who works internationally and creates immersive events combining theatre, music and poetry too. Mohammed has a deep respect for heritage, community and the arts and his purpose is clear; he wants to empower communities and celebrate multi-cultural stories around faith and migration. His art work could be understood as a vital community service, one of human connection. Mohammed is changing community division by demystifying culture, faith and ethnicity, spray can by spray can. We explore whether public space really exists, the empowerment of people, art without pretention and where courage exists.
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can be found here: https://canartsaveus.com/
Images: Courtesy of Mohammed Ali, MBE
Audio Edit: Courtesy of Joey Quan.
Series Music - Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Discover Mohammed Ali: https://www.artofmohammedali.com/

Wednesday May 04, 2022
Tap dancing during fierce civil unrest, Istanbul
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Marije Nie is a classically trained musician and percussive tap dance poet. Marije's Ted Talk features her multi award-winning dance documentary 'One Million Steps’ with Eva Stotz, where she tapped poetic dance steps in the face of an explosive protest with police using tear gas in Gezi Park, Istanbul. Marije is also the recipient of the Dutch Jur Naessens prize for innovation and she has performed with classical orchestras, jazz and contemporary ensembles on concert stages around the world. We explore space in rhythm, the mind and the community. We discuss stretching our 'imagination muscles' and the rhythm of music to over coming fear of bodily harm and death.
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can be found here: https://canartsaveus.com/
Image: Courtesy of Marije Nie
Audio edit courtesy of Joey Quan
Series Music - Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Discover Marije Nie: https://marijenie.com/

Wednesday May 04, 2022
The UK’s first hip-hop poet laureate.
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Otis Mensah, is a hip-hop poet and master of vulnerable expression. Otis became the City of Sheffield’s first poet laureate and his live performances include Glastonbury Music Festival and opening for numerous artists. Otis breaks down barriers of power, elitism and control including stereotyping and branding. He reminds "people that poetry is meant to be for the people.” – The Guardian. We explore curiosity and courage through identity, power struggles, daily fears, anxieties, the beauty of dyslexia and how we can give language freedom to let ourselves flourish. We discuss why poetry can speak but we may not speak to each other.
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can be found here: www//canartsaveus.com/
Image: Ai Narapol.
Audio edit courtesy of Joey Quan.
Series Music - Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Discover Otis Mensah: www.otismensah.com/

Wednesday May 04, 2022
Drag King, privilege, toxicity and vital mess.
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Lady Kitt is a creative activist, artist, maker and drag king, described as ‘an international superstar of feminism.’ You may also encounter Kitt as Captain Privilege or as King Kitt, a terminally confused, toxic male. Kitt’s practice however as a socially engaged artist is crystal clear. From performance art to giant origami, Kitt addresses inequality and inclusivity and creates projects all over the world. We talk about socially engaged art as acts of compassion and failures in social provision as acts of harm. We talk about art as a collaborative heartbeat but not a cure all for community regeneration led by poor policy. We explore curiosity as mess and the structures of support we need for courage.
Images: Courtesy of Lady Kitt.
Headshot PlentyUpTop (Colour photo, interior. Head and shoulders portrait of Kitt, a white shaven headed human. Kitt is smiling a wide smile. They wear a headdress which, in bright pink 3D letters, reads "Plenty Up Top". They also wear a necklace which, in the same pink lettering, reads "Gallery". 2019)
Headshot QueerCripCraftPower (Colour photo, interior. Kitt, white haven headed human with a big smile wears a headdress made of huge multi coloured flowers and a black long sleeved shirt on which white and orange text reads “queer crip craft power”. 2021)
Audio edit courtesy of Katherine Wiley.
Series music: Created by and courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can be found here: https://www.canartsaveus.com
Discover Lady Kitt: https://www.lladykitt.com/

Sunday May 01, 2022
Film art on life, death and unexpected gifts.
Sunday May 01, 2022
Sunday May 01, 2022
Barry Gibb is a multi, multi-award winning filmmaker with over 100 science films and a series of powerful shorts about time, life and death. He often films in deeply sensitive and difficult circumstances. His recent film 'The Gift,' follows the artist Barbara Bird's end of life but also her continued journey by gifting her body to science. This film has won 15 international awards alone. Barry is also a neuro-scientist and award-winning author of the 'Rough Guide to the Brain.' We explore curiosity and courage through vulnerability, time, life and death. Barry shares his fear of death and how the camera lens invites his courage to share meaningfully creative work and his compassionate purpose.
Closed Captions are added to all interviews in this series. Read only, text versions of every interview can be found here: https://www.canartsaveus.com
Image: Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Episode audio edit: Courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Series music: Created by and courtesy of Barry J. Gibb
Discover Barry's work: https://www.barryjamesgibb.com/